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	<title>Comments on: Wal-Mart sells out Black Friday customers</title>
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		<title>By: K. Osborne</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105708</link>
		<dc:creator>K. Osborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walmart in Clearlake did the same thing they stayed open all night and handed out the tickets for the laptop. I got there at 3:30 am and was told they were all gone. and I called the store the day before Thanks Giving and asked about the laptops and was told that the store would be open all night but the tickets would not be handed out till 5:00am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart in Clearlake did the same thing they stayed open all night and handed out the tickets for the laptop. I got there at 3:30 am and was told they were all gone. and I called the store the day before Thanks Giving and asked about the laptops and was told that the store would be open all night but the tickets would not be handed out till 5:00am.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W.  Anderson</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105406</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W.  Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tom, that&#039;s right. It gives the impression the manager or whoever OK&#039;d handing out advance tickets doesn&#039;t have a lick of common sense.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, that&#8217;s right. It gives the impression the manager or whoever OK&#8217;d handing out advance tickets doesn&#8217;t have a lick of common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Harper</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105403</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new low for Wal-Mart (and Best Buy, etc.).  And that&#039;s saying a lot.
 
I don&#039;t do Black Friday myself, but that slippery tactic is definitely playing with fire.  It would have served that store manager right if an angry mob took out its anger on him.  It could happen, with all the public anguish and fury right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new low for Wal-Mart (and Best Buy, etc.).  And that&#8217;s saying a lot.<br />
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I don&#8217;t do Black Friday myself, but that slippery tactic is definitely playing with fire.  It would have served that store manager right if an angry mob took out its anger on him.  It could happen, with all the public anguish and fury right now.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W.  Anderson</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105396</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W.  Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Welcome, Oso. I can&#039;t imagine sitting in a parking lot for days just to get a bargain. I think you&#039;re right about there being better  things to do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Oso. I can&#8217;t imagine sitting in a parking lot for days just to get a bargain. I think you&#8217;re right about there being better  things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Oso</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105395</link>
		<dc:creator>Oso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S.W.
We were watching the news here Thanksgiving,they interviewed a family waiting in line for the Black Friday shopping at a San Jose Best Buy. The TV guy said  &quot;So you guys have been here since Wednesday?&quot; and the man replied   &quot; No we&#039;ve been here since Tuesday. The store lets us in 10 minutes early as a reward&quot;.
I don&#039;t have anything better to do with my time either I guess but there are better ways of wasting time than sitting for days in the cold,  plus I don&#039;t have to go to Best Buy.
Really crappy thing for Wal Mart to do, but what else is new.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S.W.<br />
We were watching the news here Thanksgiving,they interviewed a family waiting in line for the Black Friday shopping at a San Jose Best Buy. The TV guy said  &#8220;So you guys have been here since Wednesday?&#8221; and the man replied   &#8221; No we&#8217;ve been here since Tuesday. The store lets us in 10 minutes early as a reward&#8221;.<br />
I don&#8217;t have anything better to do with my time either I guess but there are better ways of wasting time than sitting for days in the cold,  plus I don&#8217;t have to go to Best Buy.<br />
Really crappy thing for Wal Mart to do, but what else is new.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W.  Anderson</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105394</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W.  Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Holte, you have an interesting suggestion there. I think a store manager or owner would tell you it leaves out the competition factor.  I&#039;ve seen department stores in my area advertise 15 percent off storewide, bigger discounts on certain goods. I don&#039;t think it has the same draw as showing a particular, and especially in-demand, product. They want early shoppers to come to their store for that hot item, hoping that since they&#039;re already there, they will shop for other items, before going  elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holte, you have an interesting suggestion there. I think a store manager or owner would tell you it leaves out the competition factor.  I&#8217;ve seen department stores in my area advertise 15 percent off storewide, bigger discounts on certain goods. I don&#8217;t think it has the same draw as showing a particular, and especially in-demand, product. They want early shoppers to come to their store for that hot item, hoping that since they&#8217;re already there, they will shop for other items, before going  elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: holte ender</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105390</link>
		<dc:creator>holte ender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 13:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some stores opened at midnight, so people had to get up before they went to bed. There is nothing like a sale to generate consumer excitement, but it has to be a genuine sale, not one of these fake set-ups.
 
The giant stores, at this time of year, do over a million dollars a day, it is a strange marketing tactic to entice people with a loss leader on one or two items, when people are going to come anyway. Save tens thousands of dollars on (false) advertising and cut the price of everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some stores opened at midnight, so people had to get up before they went to bed. There is nothing like a sale to generate consumer excitement, but it has to be a genuine sale, not one of these fake set-ups.<br />
 <br />
The giant stores, at this time of year, do over a million dollars a day, it is a strange marketing tactic to entice people with a loss leader on one or two items, when people are going to come anyway. Save tens thousands of dollars on (false) advertising and cut the price of everything.</p>
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		<title>By: S.W.  Anderson</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105387</link>
		<dc:creator>S.W.  Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 04:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bee, my idea is similar to the coupon thing: During the hour before opening, send employees out with lottery-type tickets for various featured items like the cheap laptops. They ask for a show of hands from people hoping to get the laptop. If they have 37 units, they start at the beginning of the line, giving a ticket to anyone with a hand up, until they&#039;ve handed out at least three tickets for each laptop. In the hour after the store opens, they hold drawings for the 37 laptops. Employees do the same for other main advertised items. The one limitation I would make is that any one person could get no more than two tickets. And  yes, I know family members could subvert that effort to spread the chances around. But it would still be fairer for all than what that Wal-Mart did to its customers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been tempted a time or two but never have shown up at 4 a.m. to line up for one of those bargains.  I feel blessed that I can usually spot or scare up a fairly  good deal, but don&#039;t have to depend on finding things like a $200 laptop to get by. I&#039;d rather people really in need of a rock-bottom price have a chance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think you&#039;re right about these sales starting in the late &#039;80s or early &#039;90s when Cabbage Patch dolls were all the rage.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bee, my idea is similar to the coupon thing: During the hour before opening, send employees out with lottery-type tickets for various featured items like the cheap laptops. They ask for a show of hands from people hoping to get the laptop. If they have 37 units, they start at the beginning of the line, giving a ticket to anyone with a hand up, until they&#8217;ve handed out at least three tickets for each laptop. In the hour after the store opens, they hold drawings for the 37 laptops. Employees do the same for other main advertised items. The one limitation I would make is that any one person could get no more than two tickets. And  yes, I know family members could subvert that effort to spread the chances around. But it would still be fairer for all than what that Wal-Mart did to its customers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been tempted a time or two but never have shown up at 4 a.m. to line up for one of those bargains.  I feel blessed that I can usually spot or scare up a fairly  good deal, but don&#8217;t have to depend on finding things like a $200 laptop to get by. I&#8217;d rather people really in need of a rock-bottom price have a chance.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about these sales starting in the late &#8217;80s or early &#8217;90s when Cabbage Patch dolls were all the rage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bee</title>
		<link>http://wpblog.ohpinion.com/2009/11/28/wal-mart-sells-out-black-friday-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-105384</link>
		<dc:creator>Bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, that kind of bullshit really is just playing with fire.  It would have been safer to do what other retailers have done before.  If they know they have 200 machines, and 2 hours before they open they have 2,000 people in line with 300 of them waiting for one particular item, with lurkers waiting on the fringes for a chance to cut in line at the front and bust through the doors as soon as they open, hand out coupons 30 minutes before store opening to those at the front of the line, who are most likely to get that merchandise anyway.  I heard that a ToysRus here in VA did that last year when they had 25 wii games to sell, and had 2000 people in line.  That cut down on the possibility for violence because line-cutters wouldn&#039;t be able to get one anyway, but was still fair to those who got in line early hoping to score one for their kids.
I did a little black friday early shopping.  I was up anyway, and I kind of enjoy it. I go to Home Depot for batteries and flashlights - that kind of stuff.  I don&#039;t go for electronics, because most of the &quot;doorbuster&quot; stuff is total crap to begin with and might last a week if you&#039;re lucky.   However, for people who are living on the total edge, and could use a $200 laptop that will be perfectly fine for their teenager to use (and they all need a computer for schoolwork now), this was kind of...really, very shitty, of Walmart to pull.  Big surprise, though, it&#039;s walmart.
Maybe stores like WalMart and Best Buy need to just stop doing the early morning openings.  How did this stuff get started, anyway?  I seem to remember it all started with the cabbage patch dolls back in the 80&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, that kind of bullshit really is just playing with fire.  It would have been safer to do what other retailers have done before.  If they know they have 200 machines, and 2 hours before they open they have 2,000 people in line with 300 of them waiting for one particular item, with lurkers waiting on the fringes for a chance to cut in line at the front and bust through the doors as soon as they open, hand out coupons 30 minutes before store opening to those at the front of the line, who are most likely to get that merchandise anyway.  I heard that a ToysRus here in VA did that last year when they had 25 wii games to sell, and had 2000 people in line.  That cut down on the possibility for violence because line-cutters wouldn&#8217;t be able to get one anyway, but was still fair to those who got in line early hoping to score one for their kids.<br />
I did a little black friday early shopping.  I was up anyway, and I kind of enjoy it. I go to Home Depot for batteries and flashlights &#8211; that kind of stuff.  I don&#8217;t go for electronics, because most of the &#8220;doorbuster&#8221; stuff is total crap to begin with and might last a week if you&#8217;re lucky.   However, for people who are living on the total edge, and could use a $200 laptop that will be perfectly fine for their teenager to use (and they all need a computer for schoolwork now), this was kind of&#8230;really, very shitty, of Walmart to pull.  Big surprise, though, it&#8217;s walmart.<br />
Maybe stores like WalMart and Best Buy need to just stop doing the early morning openings.  How did this stuff get started, anyway?  I seem to remember it all started with the cabbage patch dolls back in the 80&#8242;s.</p>
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